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    Garden Villages affecting airfields.

    I see the government have approved a number of Garden villages.
    And a couple of microlight airfields will be affected.

    Long Marston.

    Deenthorpe
    http://image.slidesharecdn.com/58e27...?cb=1450093149

    Hunsdon
    http://www.gilstonparkestate.com/abo...ap-of-proposal.

    ??

    Thats why we all need to sign the petition..

    To reassess general aviation airfields as green belt not brown field sites

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/174826


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    Why petition the government? Do you think that the airfield owners should be the ones to petition, after all it is them that will benefit financially.


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    Sorry guys but given the choice of running a small airfield and making little or no money or selling up and walking away with 10 + Million what do you think the airfield owners will want to do ? Lucky for us we can fly into grass trips so its no the end of the world


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    hopefully sell up and find somewhere new to set up a new airfield
    fly high fly safe and may you always have the wind at your back
    (except when taking off or landing according to Phil )


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    Quote Originally Posted by trevs99uk View Post
    I see the government have approved a number of Garden villages.
    And a couple of microlight airfields will be affected.

    Deenthorpe
    http://image.slidesharecdn.com/58e27...?cb=1450093149
    Dammit; thats where I did my training in the 90's! Simon James will be fuming as hes been the resident FI for around 25 years. It was home to the USAF in WW2. Couldnt make out the pics trev, do you have a better link please?


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    At Hunsdon, we are being consulted & kept informed by the land owner (Places for People or PFP) & their agents as to their thoughts & intentions. I don't think we could have a significant amount of influence on their plans if we didn't like them, but they aren't ignoring us.

    We've known for many years that the intention is to build on at least part of the estate which includes Hunsdon airfield. However, the current plans do NOT show any development on the airfield itself. In fact, PFP's intention is that (directly quoting their website) "Hunsdon’s historic Airfield will be managed and protected from future development. It will remain open to the public, with access retained and encouraged through the Airfield Park proposals". Now, these "Airfield Park" proposals aren't really detailed on the website, but it seems they intend to allow flying & farming to continue, while improving access for the local community.

    The details need to be studied further, but things won't really start to happen for some time. Personally, I do have some concerns about aerial access routes into the airfield - our approval from NATS (known as a "Letter of Agreement") to operate in the Stansted CTR/TMZ only allows us to approach from the south/south west at a maximum of 1,000' AMSL, which may take us right over one of their "villages" at around 750' AGL - & about how tight some circuits will be to another "village" (but it's not significantly different to how close we get to Hunsdon itself on the other side of the circuit). But we will see.

    The petition regarding brown/green belt is irrelevant in our case. Hunsdon IS green belt - but they're going to build on it anyway as government say the housing stock is needed in the area (& it may well be).

    At the end of the day, we (like most airfield operators) don't own the land. All we can do is hope that the land owner will consult with all their tenants about their plans - & so far they have.


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    Quote Originally Posted by peastlake View Post
    ...............I do have some concerns about aerial access routes into the airfield - our approval from NATS (known as a "Letter of Agreement") to operate in the Stansted CTR/TMZ only allows us to approach from the south/south west at a maximum of 1,000' AMSL, which may take us right over one of their "villages" at around 750' AGL - & about how tight some circuits will be to another "village" (but it's not significantly different to how close we get to Hunsdon itself on the other side of the circuit). But we will see.................
    It seems that you may have an opportunity to get a clause included in the deeds of sale of the houses on the development, stating that the airfield was there before the construction, and that anyone buying a property has to forego any right to complain about the aerial activity ..... just a thought.

    Where we live, all the properties in our town have an aerial "right of way" for aircraft, meaning that so long as the aircraft is obeying the rules of the air, or any derogation allowed him, nobody can complain about aircraft noise or activity. That applies even to our house which is way outside the circuit and the extended runway line !
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    I believe there appears to be a slight difference in attitude to such things between France and UK.
    ... in France, small airfields and aircraft are welcomed (generally) by the "Prefecture" and seen as a local asset... in the UK small airfields and aircraft... correction ALL airfields and ALL aircraft, are abhorred by local councils and the general population.... and seen as "rich boys toys" and a "waste of space" which could more usefully be turned into houses for immigrants.... sorry citizens.
    Wally Hayward


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