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    Weight of 110sx wing

    I'm looking at different options of trike, engine and wing. I've downloaded BM040 TADS, for the 110SX/CYCLONE 70, but it has no mention of the weight of the wing itself. Worth a try but its not the sort of data usually found in TADS.
    It would be nice if its around 25kgs.
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    I know that the Chaser (10sqm and 100% double surface) is 31kg.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielarts View Post
    I know that the Chaser (10sqm and 100% double surface) is 31kg.
    Arielarts, thanks for the info. I hope its a bit less, although the Grif 3DC is 29kgs so not far off. I note that the cyclone 70 stalls at 24mph at max take off weight of 188kgs.
    I'll be looking for a max take off of 178kgs so maybe stalls a little less. (is there a formula for that, or does it depend on wing type?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRiley View Post
    Arielarts, thanks for the info. I hope its a bit less, although the Grif 3DC is 29kgs so not far off. I note that the cyclone 70 stalls at 24mph at max take off weight of 188kgs.
    I'll be looking for a max take off of 178kgs so maybe stalls a little less. (is there a formula for that, or does it depend on wing type?)
    I have found this formula, Vs new = Vs old weight x √(new weight/old weight) I think a more realistic max takeoff weight is , 70kgs + 90kgs pilot = 160kgs
    188 x
    √(160/188) = 0.92
    0.92 x 24 = 22mph new stall speed
    Maybe someone can confirm this, or tell me where I'm going wrong.
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    Can't confirm your formula, but it might refer to rigid (conventional aircraft) wings. Flexwings are a whole other ballgame...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielarts View Post
    Can't confirm your formula, but it might refer to rigid (conventional aircraft) wings. Flexwings are a whole other ballgame...
    Thanks, weight does effect performance so maybe its similar to fixed wing but with added cool. Not sure I can make a SPHG just weighed my Polini Thor 250, 21kgs, I could take the electric start off, may have to buy a new wing the old ones are a bit heavy.
    Times running out, summer is on its way.
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    John,

    There's a 130SX wing in my hangar that's been there since before I bought it. The Chaser type trike is also there. The owner seems to have given up altogether on flying the plane as it has no engine or instruments in the trike. The wing has no battens as far as I am aware, but other than that it's only been out of the bag once, and that was when I took it out about six years ago to see if the mice had eaten it. They hadn't, and it looked like brand new. So if you know anyone who'd like the wing and/or trike then get in touch, as I'll be moving hangars soon, and I don't want to have to lug this other bloke's stuff around. I'm based in South Herts by the way, and very close to jct 22 of the M25, right behind the De Havilland Mosquito museum, so there's something interesting to look at on your way in and out.


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    Hi Bob, Thanks for the heads up. I'll pm you.


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    Aerial Arts 110SX
    18.3 kg, Trike frame
    23.3kg, Trike with pod and skirt
    27.2kg, Wing (inc wing bag)
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