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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher Barker View Post
    If you’re not exempt for a flight arriving in the UK, why do you think you would be when you’re departing the UK?
    I was wrong!

    >...flights that begin and end in the UK and don’t pass over another country....


    [unless an 'emergency' occurred but that would not be fair]
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    That raises an interesting question for SSDR pilots in Northern Ireland.
    What if you had to cross in Eire's airspace due to unexpected weather, to remain VFR ??
    The three most useless things in aviation:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentreau View Post
    That raises an interesting question for SSDR pilots in Northern Ireland.
    What if you had to cross in Eire's airspace due to unexpected weather, to remain VFR ??
    There's no 'what if' there. No problem at all.

    My instructor said that if the flight was in danger all rules go out of the window.

    By extension any aircraft could land in the gardens of Buckingham Palace - and if you had a true, reasonable and convincing reason for doing so, as they say hereabouts, "they can't touch you for it".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoni View Post
    [unless an 'emergency' occurred but that would not be fair]
    Yes, I'd had that thought too! The story might not stack up though: you were heading south over the channel for a view of France, intending to return to a UK airfield, and that then the weather started brewing to the north. So you stopped off in France for a few days. And that you then headed north over the channel for a view of your estranged homeland, from which you were now prohibited from landing your aircraft on a flight from abroad, intending to return to a French airfield, and the weather started brewing to the north so you landed again in England. Hmm.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoni View Post
    By extension any aircraft could land in the gardens of Buckingham Palace - and if you had a true, reasonable and convincing reason for doing so, as they say hereabouts, "they can't touch you for it".
    You would have had to have breached SO many rules to get into a situation that BP was your emergency landing that the book would be thrown at you.

    It's a very, very poor example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randombloke View Post
    You would have had to have breached SO many rules to get into a situation that BP was your emergency landing that the book would be thrown at you.

    It's a very, very poor example.
    Definitely. Anyway that would be a poor field-choice as Hyde Park is much bigger !!
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    A night-time aircraft-carrier landing is one of the few opportunities in life where you get to experience all three simultaneously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randombloke View Post
    You would have had to have breached SO many rules to get into a situation that BP was your emergency landing that the book would be thrown at you.

    It's a very, very poor example.
    It's one of the best examples there could be.

    I didn't specify what type of aircraft or pilot's licence would have been involved.

    The point is that if your flight is in danger the highest priority has to be maintaining safety, and the lowest priority is following rules. And that in the UK I believe that is also the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentreau View Post
    Definitely. Anyway that would be a poor field-choice as Hyde Park is much bigger !!
    I could have used the example of the gardens at the Whitehouse but probably that would not be safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoni View Post
    It's one of the best examples there could be.

    I didn't specify what type of aircraft or pilot's licence would have been involved.

    The point is that if your flight is in danger the highest priority has to be maintaining safety, and the lowest priority is following rules. And that in the UK I believe that is also the law.
    Your example was almost as good as your point!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoni View Post
    It's one of the best examples there could be.

    I didn't specify what type of aircraft or pilot's licence would have been involved.

    The point is that if your flight is in danger the highest priority has to be maintaining safety, and the lowest priority is following rules. And that in the UK I believe that is also the law.
    The last person who tried this was downed by the wash from a helicopter. They were prosecuted for being a ****.

    There was no discussion about reasons - prevention was the word from the authorities.

    Given the current political climate you might not live long enough to argue the case, if the forces thought the Royal Family was under threat from terrorism.
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