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    Hi Joan, no, what I'm saying is that when you start it's better to say what you want to in plain English. Who could then fail to understand? Far better to do that than stay silent because you don't want to make a fool of yourself. In time everyone, me included becomes more confident and as you do you learn and begin to copy those who you realise are more proficient than you are. Then you begin to use better terminolgy.

    I read something the other day on another forum where someone was approaching to land at an airfield and there was clearly someone, from their calls, approaching from completely the wrong direction. The poster said that he was too embarrassed to say anything as he was only a low time pilot.

    I said FGS you MUST say something otherwise all those poor souls who are flying non-radio (and there are still a few ) might have no idea what was going on with who knows what consequences. FAR better to communicate rather than keep quiet, for everyone's safety. Plenty of time to do it with elegance and panache later on, but for now just do it.

    Sorry if that upsets a few of the stuffed shirts who are sticklers for formality la 1934 - we don't need pips on our shoulders to be safe, for ourselves and for others.

    And who cares if someone who is evidently a less-experienced pilot takes a few seconds longer to say what they want to. Far better that than having the 'experienced' pilots that we all hear nattering away on Safetycom telling the world that they're leaving the circuit to the north and will be returning in 15 minutes ... and how are the kids, Fred?

    BTW Joan, I've never been 'embittered'. Why should I be? I make no secret about having little respect for some of the people and the attitudes that I encountered in UK microlighting, some of whom in quite 'high' places and was quite happy to leave them behind when the opportunity arose. But 'embittered', never. I don't let little people upset me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Mole View Post
    ... I don't let little people upset me
    Oh good, I was worried I might have hurt your feelings

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    Joan, I have never regarded you as a 'little' person. More like one of the stalwarts of the UK microlight scene


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    Roger, roger. Out.



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    When I used to fly near Cambridge (gliders) we would enjoy trying to be able to have the following exchange on the radio:
    "Where are you Martin?"
    " I'm over Over, over."
    Used to crack us up...

    But seriously, Roger is sort of correct - there's no need to agonize over it , as long as your meaning is clear.
    But Roger is wrong to imply that correct phraseology doesn't matter. Learning the right way to do it helps enormously with confidence, not just on the radio, but more generally with your flying.
    It's not that difficult for goodness sake! Implying that it's so hard that you shouldn't try is just silly.
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    Quick update on this.
    Sunday morning after 1st circuit FI said for me to try doing the radio calls.
    Got them all spot on.
    Been practising in my pickup while driving around.
    Think also being more confident in my flying ability helps, not having to concentrate so hard now on approach and landing

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    Re:- not having to concentrate so hard ....... the very best advice ever given to me was "every takeoff, every landing .... treat them as your very first ... or the beast will bite" I didn't ... once .... it bit me ... I do now .. EVERYTIME

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    Yes probably worded that wrong
    It`s becoming more second nature is maybe a better way to put it
    At first I was concentrating so hard trying to remember everything I had to remember that radio calls just didn`t work
    Now I know what speed I should be looking for at various points in the circuit, they are ingrained in my mind, same with altitude and so on.

    But yes every flight is different in one way or another


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    I know exactly what you refer to. I am now starting gyro training, take off in a flex for me is muscle reflex, but, with the new skills ... WOW!! how fast things seem to happen. On reflection, it was the same with the flex, so many things one has to consider, there is no muscle reflex, it all has to be done by the numbers. Slowly, one piece at a time, things are falling into place for me as they are for you. The same take off seems to pass slower, more controlled with more time to consider the finer points.
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    I agree with Martins remarks. Utilize the driving time to and from the runway to rehearse your radio patter, short, clear, and to the point.

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