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    I like the idea of sound, and perhaps an indication of where to look, only. I occasionally fly with someone who has PAW, coupled with Sky Demon. I watch him spend as much time looking for a reported contact as looking out for anything else. He's quite aware of this too, but it becomes an obsession.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielarts View Post
    I watch him spend as much time looking for a reported contact as looking out for anything else. He's quite aware of this too, but it becomes an obsession.
    Without wanting to go too much off topic, is this for things where he has been given a bearing or is it for bearingless targets, e.g. Mode-C and Mode-S transponders? With MLAT the latter should go away, given an update to the latest software and enough OGN-R coverage.
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    Bit of both Steve. We fly in a glider intense area, so we're keenly aware of how difficult they can be to spot. Lack of a FLARM is a serious shortcoming of all other systems - and I know that OGN-R coverage will go a long way to rectifying this.
    From a purely ergonomic standpoint, software that can assimilate a threat (not everything in the vicinity - that's just a distraction from looking out of the window, or visor) and give an audible warning and a direction in which to look would be my holy grail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arielarts View Post
    Bit of both Steve. We fly in a glider intense area, so we're keenly aware of how difficult they can be to spot. Lack of a FLARM is a serious shortcoming of all other systems - and I know that OGN-R coverage will go a long way to rectifying this.
    From a purely ergonomic standpoint, software that can assimilate a threat (not everything in the vicinity - that's just a distraction from looking out of the window, or visor) and give an audible warning and a direction in which to look would be my holy grail.
    We have a glider intense area to the North of us. I'm halfway through building an OGN-R station to see if this improves things, we have fairly good coverage, but I can fill in a few holes.

    Once it's up and running, I'll see how much difference it makes to PilotAware locally, then invest in one if it hits the spot. I'll be connecting the audio out to the intercom audio in if so.

    PowerFLARM in Europe is being marketed at powered aircraft, and via one of the Paragliding forums I hear news of the Swiss PG association getting involved in reducing the cost of FLARM to members.

    I'll chase the story up.
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    Bump...
    I've just bought a Lynx audio adapter off AFORS. Now, PilotAware offers audio output which gives warning of detected traffic - a function I would like to consider using. I don't want to bother carrying a phone or tablet to see traffic 10 miles away, but would be interested in using it audio only.

    Is this a feasible option?



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    Quote Originally Posted by MadamBreakneck View Post
    Bump...
    I've just bought a Lynx audio adapter off AFORS. Now, PilotAware offers audio output which gives warning of detected traffic - a function I would like to consider using. I don't want to bother carrying a phone or tablet to see traffic 10 miles away, but would be interested in using it audio only.

    Is this a feasible option?
    Yes, the 3.5mm audio jack on the PAW can feed the multipin bayonet audio in adaptor on the Lynx.

    You will need to configure it, for which you will need a tablet or a phone, but once configured you should be done, it will not be needed again. You can always check the functionality of the PAW when not flying with a phone and the PAW Wifi.

    There is a PilotAware support forum and the company themselves are very good, mail them first to check I'm not spouting bovine excrement.

    Forum here:

    http://forum.pilotaware.com

    I use it mostly for my OGN-R ground station , now re-branded ATOM GRID.
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    Thanks.
    I'm still torn between:

    • Pilot Aware - and be warned about most that squirt, squawk, or squitter
    • Sky Echo - and be seen by most with kit to look for such things
    • Status quo - the old Mk1s and big-sky-little aeroplane



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    Quote Originally Posted by MadamBreakneck View Post
    • Status quo - the old Mk1s and big-sky-little aeroplane
    Especially for our simple, slow, wide-eyed aviation. I'm against techno-creep.
    "The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place" - G.B.S.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Antoni View Post
    Especially for our simple, slow, wide-eyed aviation. I'm against techno-creep.
    If it were that easy. I'm simple, slow and wide-eyed, but many of my potential collision* partners are complex and fast (and myopic?).

    * or scary close encounter.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MadamBreakneck View Post
    If it were that easy. I'm simple, slow and wide-eyed, but many of my potential collision* partners are complex and fast (and myopic?).
    If your potential risks are fast and complex then maybe ADS-B in/out - SkyEcho 2 - is your best bet, if you are sure they will avoid you.

    I have a similar approach for paragliding, flying with a FLARM TX beacon to ward off fast moving sailplanes.
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