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    Hi All,

    Long time lurker, first time poster... I'm looking to start training for my NPPL when the coronavirus crisis is over.

    Currently reading the Cosgrove 8th edition and watching as many ground school videos on YouTube as I can, whilst trying to decide where to start training and in which aircraft (likely C42 or Eurostar)

    Craig

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    Hi Craig and welcome to the forum.
    I got my license 18 months ago, so memories of training are still reasonably fresh.
    When we do return to whatever the new normal is and you can start training, my only suggestion is to enjoy every minute of it.
    We do this because we enjoy it. While there are some schools and instructors who may offer to push you through the process as quickly as possible, I don't think that's the point.
    You probably won't be able to fly as often as you'd like, but take the opportunities to re-read Cosgrove, play with simulators, chat on here about your training, plans for the future etc.
    Have fun!
    G-BZNP Still not dead, but resting following engine failure.

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    Welcome to the forum Craig, from another 'start when this is over' hopeful

    I've been reading Cosgrove repeatedly (some of it is slowly sticking...) - and you can also download pdf's for free of The Skyway Code and GetMet - both useful

    Skyway Code : https://www.caa.co.uk/General-aviati...e-Skyway-Code/
    Get Met : https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/binarie.../ga/getmet.pdf
    Met Office pilot training resources : https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/service...ilot-resources
    Some free Practice questions : https://www.flexwingscotland.co.uk/practice-exams/
    And you'll need to do a medical declaration at some point too : https://apply.caa.co.uk/CAAPortal/te...m?formCode=PMD

    There's loads to look at!

    Now, if anyone can tell me how to get all the cloud nomenclature to stick in my thick head I'll be eternally grateful

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    I finally made some of the cloud stuff stick by boring my wife and friends with it!
    When you go out for a walk, take the book with you, identify the cloud formations and either tell someone or write it down. Either will help it stick in your memory.
    G-BZNP Still not dead, but resting following engine failure.

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    Thanks Guys!

    Mike - I've got those resources ready to read, once I've finished Cosgrove (probably need to read it more than once), along with CAP 413 for RT... there's just so much to remember!!

    Met and Air Law seem to be the areas that are not quite sinking in yet...
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    Meteorology is, to my mind, the most memory intensive part of the process of learning to become a pilot.
    This period of no flying, co-incident with this season of changeable weather is an ideal opportunity to make use of the time.
    G-BZNP Still not dead, but resting following engine failure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Calvert View Post
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    Now, if anyone can tell me how to get all the cloud nomenclature to stick in my thick head I'll be eternally grateful
    It helps to have learnt Latin at school, but basically clouds have three names (or only two if below about 10,000 feet)
    First name - indicates height band = eg alto or cirro (or nothing mentioned if in lower air)
    Second name - indicates basic form = eg cumulus (lumpy) or stratus (layered)
    Third name - distinguishing features = eg lenticularis (lens-shaped) or humilis (not very big) or nimbus (rain producing)
    NB, there can be loads of different cloud types in the sky at the same time, in different places and at different heights.

    Next, try to understand what's causing the cloud - air blowing over surface features, frontal systems, or convection, or whatever

    Then try to understand the structure of frontal systems - and finally, the air masses because they are what controls most UK weather.

    Jetstreams are interesting but too high and 'big picture' for our flying.

    ... and start taking an interest in the weather forecasts on TV and how it correlates to what you see outside the window.

    When you actually get flying (), it'll start to make more sense as you begin to get used to what the air feels like when the different types of cloud are around.

    Quote Originally Posted by CraigF View Post
    ... there's just so much to remember!!

    Met and Air Law seem to be the areas that are not quite sinking in yet...
    At least the met theory, notwithstanding 'climate change', is fairly constant. Air law keeps changing!



    Back to just bimbling in the TST.

    No longer instructing - just pontificating..

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    Hi Craig
    Welcome to the forum
    I am about half way through learning, started in a C42 and then just after Christmas joined two others in buying a Skyranger.
    Enjoy the learning
    I am spending time now on Met and Nav, already have the others done.
    Not to hard if your anything like when it comes to the exams, all multiple choice so usually something jogs your memory

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    Trev, this brings me back to my earlier point:
    There are some instructors around who offer to 'fast track' you through the process.
    This is achieved by teaching you to pass the exam. It is preferable to learn the subject in as much depth as you can.

    Not casting aspersions on your own learning, just taking the opportunity to raise the point.
    G-BZNP Still not dead, but resting following engine failure.

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    Miss understood me a bit
    You need to learn all the information and have it stored up there for when the need arises
    But having multiple choice papers sometimes just jogs the memory for those odd snippets of information that you are maybe not 100% on.

    Any thoughts on how lessons will resume, no keeping 2m apart in a Skyranger??


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