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    French AIP - Times quoted?

    Looking at the SIA plates (for example Blois), times quote in the miscellaneous section are stated as being HIV +1 (or WIN +1 in English!).

    I'm sure you can imagine the results I came up with when I googled 'HIV French Time'.

    Blois ATS is quoted in the document as being open 0730-1000 and 1200-1530, what I'm trying to find out is what time zone is being quoted. I reckon lots of people on here are going to be able to help with this one .


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    French time is UK time +1


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    Yeah I know, but thanks for answering Bob.

    I was more interested in what time zone the SIA plates are quoting as HIV +1 is. It might be UTC +1 but then again it might not be, and I haven't been able to find out on Google.

    I certainly don't think that the French are referring their airfield plates to whatever the local time zone in the UK happens to be at that time, +1


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    All French VAC plates quote times in UTC.

    The operating hours of ATS are given in UTC for the summer period, when France is on UTC+2
    So for example at Blois, ATS hours are given as 0730-1000, 1200-1530
    In summer that is 0930-1200, 1400-1730 local time.

    The HIV +1 / WIN +1 entry tells you that in winter (hiver) the UTC times are one hour later since France is then on UTC+1.
    So the ATS times locally dont change, just the UTC equivalent does.

    Clear as mud ????

    PS you can find the description of the plates in english anf french at:
    https://www.sia.aviation-civile.gouv...05_GEN-1.1.pdf
    Last edited by Gentreau; 24-04-11 at 20:41 PM. Reason: Found the link to the description doc
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    One thing that I can say is that the whole of France shuts at 12:00 to 14:00 local time for lunch. Never expect to get any service at this time, and expect any service after 14:00 to be tainted by the lunchtime red wine.
    Interesting point on the French news this week is that the French riot police are considering industrial action because the authorities are trying to withdraw their right to drink 1/4 of a litre of wine with their lunch!


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    Thanks Gentreau, both for your explanation which is actually as clear as crystal, and for the link to the document, which will be extremely useful


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