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    Just found this thread over on ‘the other side’
    http://forums.bmaa.org/default.aspx?f=15&p=1&m=100093
    The comments from John Moore very nearly resulted in a keyboard full of coffee.


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    Was an interesting read John,a re going to broadmeadow w/end
    Allways up for a challenge
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny3star View Post
    Not sure if T600Ns are light enough to be able to use the 912 anyway?
    Gordon Pill had a 912-powered T600N displayed at Popham once. He didn't put it into production. I recall him saying that the engine was too heavy for the CG range.

    I enjoy John Moore's sense of humour too - but it doesn't mean that his opinions are right. It reminds me of scurrilous misrepresentation of the Pugwash stories or the Reliant three wheel vehicles (use Google if you don't know). The Reliants as I recall were actually very popular with bikers who were able to get the best out of them.

    I bought a Thruster as the school machine because it is rugged and more representative of the sort of aircraft most (at the time) new pilots would move onto as a first aircraft. I bought the Jabiru version because it was quieter and has a longer service life than the 2-stroke alternatives.

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    It is also possible that BJ's opinions are somewhat coloured by the experience of putting a Jabiru engined Sky Raider (a tandem predecessor to the Escapade) into a hedge when the engine went pop.


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    Quote Originally Posted by paultheparaglider View Post
    It is also possible that BJ's opinions are somewhat coloured by the experience of putting a Jabiru engined Sky Raider (a tandem predecessor to the Escapade) into a hedge when the engine went pop.

    Actually Paul, I seem to remember that it was a case of a 'tyre failure' ?
    BJ has a very short strip, and was probably flying rather heavy if fuel was more than half tanks. I understood he was flying circuits and needed to do a go around, but left it a bit late. So airspeed had probably decayed too.
    From what I read and heard, it was not the engine at fault.
    By the way that Easyraider is now back in the air and lives in the West Country.
    Escapade driver from Sussex.


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    I expect all of our opinions are coloured by our own personal experiences, and from the tales of fellow aviators.
    For completely impartial advice on the pros and cons of each engine, you need to talk to an “expert”.
    Perhaps an instructor with say 500 hours on each type, hang on, on second thoughts better say 200
    Or perhaps a maintenance engineer who works on both types regularly? What are their thoughts?
    Current owners of either type are unlikely to agree about the shortcomings of their particular engine, that's life.
    Off down the pub now, cheers
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadamBreakneck View Post
    Gordon Pill had a 912-powered T600N displayed at Popham once. He didn't put it into production. I recall him saying that the engine was too heavy for the CG range.
    I believe that engine is now in our C-42, having going via a Eurostar in the mean time, but I don't have the registration of the Thurster it was in. Engine has only now been run in having just done it's first 1000 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie View Post
    I don't have the registration of the Thurster it was in.
    Come on Katie, they don’t use that much fuel.

    (just back from pub) hic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by watchboss1 View Post
    From what I read and heard, it was not the engine at fault.
    By the way that Easyraider is now back in the air and lives in the West Country.
    Interesting, Clive. I was sure he had blamed it on the engine.

    Good to hear it is flying again. It looks like a great design to me. Have you flown one?


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    Quote Originally Posted by paultheparaglider View Post
    Interesting, Clive. I was sure he had blamed it on the engine.

    Good to hear it is flying again. It looks like a great design to me. Have you flown one?

    It is a good little aeroplane Paul, though more of a 1+1 than a 2 seater, as there are no controls in the back. It's more of a dickie seat really.I'd say they represent excellent value for anyone who generally fly's solo with lots of camping gear, or occasionally takes passengers.
    Wing fold in 3 to 5 miutes ( depending how fast you walk round the plane ). And they're not too expensive.
    Fantastic short field capability, but a bit draggy because the wing struts are round and not aerofoiled.You can fit sleeves to sort that . Very good value for money.
    Yes I've flown a couple of them.
    Escapade driver from Sussex.


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