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    Turning - how to judge how much is required

    Hi All - I've only just started flexwing training and had my first proper training flight yesterday. My first lesson went really well and seemed to have done ok with straight and level and turning. However, on the commute to work this morning I got thinking... When turning (normal not steep) how do you know what level of turn is required e.g. do I look to the left wing on a left turn and aim to have my wing tip a certain amount under the horizon? I remember my instructor mentioning degrees but can't think back if that was in relation to the turns. I hope this makes sense! Thanks, Ross.


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    wing tip on horizon 15deg??? is one and steeper 30deg??? is the wires on the horizon. The amount required is entirely up to you.
    Hopefully this is of some help.
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    If im reading this correctly - your asking how do you know how much to turn with regards to rate of turn ?

    So of comes with practice really - although I'm only a baby learner myself.

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    Its a bit like steering a car, the amount of steering wheel angle you need depends on the road. An aeroplane is similar - if tiring to line up with a runway for instance you bank a bit using your experience of what you think will work, and then adjust bank angle as you see how the turn is developing and whether you will overshoot or undershoot the centreline.

    As for degrees - this is language you will work out with your instructor. Some like to use references such as wing tips, or first or second batten in on the horizon for 15 degrees, and where the wing wires disappear into the sail on the horizon for 30 degrees. These will be approximate and depend how tall you are and what wing the trike has, but the important thing is that you and your instructor are in agreement what he wants when he asks you for a specific bank angle. For 45 and 60 degrees its normally a case of using the front strut angle against horizon.

    so do t worry about it just now - I am sure your instructor will explain all as the lessons progress.

    have fun

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    Thanks folks - now making more sense!


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    Ross, feedback that I got from Bill today was that you were FAB. The "best first lesson he has had" ... to be fair tho.. he didn't get me for my 1st one

    Anyhow.. it is easier to demonstrate in pictures ...

    Straight and level....



    Gentle 30 degree turn...



    60 degree turn...






    Anyhow.. I am free tomorrow if you fancy popping up to Perth for a pax flight for that local bimble around the area we missed out on last time.
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    Some nice gentle turns there Jim
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    Jim is that a knife edge,bet u had her wound up for that manoeuvre
    Allways up for a challenge
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    Hi Jim - thanks so much for the pictures AND for the comments re:first lesson. I'm sure Bill was just being kind! I really had such a great lesson, can't wait till next week now. I would love to have joined you as a passenger tomorrow but in working Mid may I will be free Tuesdays from then until August so if your offer is still open I will join you then!


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    No probs. I will see when you are next booked into the system and we can maybe sort something out for the hour or so before hand or afterwards.
    I can teach ya tons of bad habits in order to give Bill a challenge


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